{"id":571,"date":"2017-07-29T14:51:26","date_gmt":"2017-07-29T22:51:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/?p=571"},"modified":"2018-02-06T01:28:33","modified_gmt":"2018-02-06T09:28:33","slug":"lepy-lp-2024a-class-t-amplifier-mod","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/2017\/07\/29\/lepy-lp-2024a-class-t-amplifier-mod\/","title":{"rendered":"Lepy LP-2024A+ Class T Amplifier Mod"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>My traditional Hi-Fi amplifier drains a lot of power and heats up my room\u00a0<span style=\"font-size: 1.0625rem;\">when I&#8217;m not using it<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 1.0625rem;\">. The summer heat prompted me to look into Class-D amplifiers as they&#8217;re highly energy efficient.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>I bought a Lepy LP-2024A+, a Class-T amplifier (It&#8217;s <strong>T<\/strong>ripath&#8217;s improvement over Class-D amplfiers) for $22 shipped. It sounded good over a narrow range of volume, as I can hear the background sound details on my ADS 200 speakers.<\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately, strong bass components in certain music gets distorted, a sign that the amplifier cannot deliver fast energy impulses. To put it simply, I enjoyed the treble but not the bass with this amplifier.<\/p>\n<p>I saw some mods reports on the older TA-2020A+ based units (like LP-2020A+), but as of now, only one Japanese blog <a href=\"http:\/\/wata2000.blog.so-net.ne.jp\/2015-10-07\">site<\/a> talk about switching out input stage op-amps without other changes. So I decided to do my own mod and post the results here.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>First, the unit came with a dinky 2200uF capacitor for power smoothing. I upgraded it to 6800uF. I happen to have a 12uH inductor with thick wires, so I replaced the toroid inductor (as in the LC power smoothing pair) with it while I&#8217;m at it.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/DSC_0037.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-575\" src=\"https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/DSC_0037-1024x683.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"840\" height=\"560\" srcset=\"https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/DSC_0037-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/DSC_0037-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/DSC_0037-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/DSC_0037-840x560.jpg 840w, https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/DSC_0037-120x80.jpg 120w, https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/DSC_0037-360x240.jpg 360w, https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/DSC_0037-600x400.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 840px) 100vw, 840px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Then I replaced all the remaining white-label capacitors with decent brands (Wruth, Nichicon, Panasonic, CDE), all rated at 105 degC, sometimes with higher voltage ratings depends on which brand-name parts Newark has on sale when I order it.<\/p>\n<p>Then I upgraded the 4 output stage inductors with Wruth 7447452100 rated 10uH 4.5A. Tripath&#8217;s datasheet says 2A, so I supposed the one populated on board would be less than that.<\/p>\n<p>I also replaced the SMD (1206) ceramic capacitors at the output stage (very close to the speaker wire terminals) with Polyester Film (for the taller 0.47uF ceramic chips) and NP0\/C0G (the thinner 0.1uF ceramic) to improve linearity. I suspect this change helped to reduce the listening fatigue for treble components of the music I&#8217;m listening to. Now I don&#8217;t have to tone down the treble gain (knob) that aggressively.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/DSC_0039.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-573\" src=\"https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/DSC_0039-1024x683.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"840\" height=\"560\" srcset=\"https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/DSC_0039-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/DSC_0039-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/DSC_0039-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/DSC_0039-840x560.jpg 840w, https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/DSC_0039-120x80.jpg 120w, https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/DSC_0039-360x240.jpg 360w, https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/DSC_0039-600x400.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 840px) 100vw, 840px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>As prompted by the Japanese blog site, I ordered some LT1364, but the improvement isn&#8217;t that big since the NE5532 wasn&#8217;t bad in the first place:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/DSC_0041.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-574\" src=\"https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/DSC_0041-1024x683.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"840\" height=\"560\" srcset=\"https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/DSC_0041-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/DSC_0041-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/DSC_0041-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/DSC_0041-840x560.jpg 840w, https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/DSC_0041-120x80.jpg 120w, https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/DSC_0041-360x240.jpg 360w, https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/DSC_0041-600x400.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 840px) 100vw, 840px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The bass and drums are much more enjoyable after the mod, since the improved power handling reduced the bass distortion on bass impulses. The amplifier is still 15W (7.5W+7.5W) dictated by TA-2024A+, but I rarely want to crank the music up louder than that anyway.<\/p>\n<p>As a bonus, I took a thermal image with my Seek Thermal Imager:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/img_thermal_1500959755756.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-579 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/img_thermal_1500959755756-e1501369284711-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"840\" height=\"630\" srcset=\"https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/img_thermal_1500959755756-e1501369284711-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/img_thermal_1500959755756-e1501369284711-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/img_thermal_1500959755756-e1501369284711-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/img_thermal_1500959755756-e1501369284711.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 840px) 100vw, 840px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The input stage ICs LT1634 are 118 deg F:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/img_thermal_1500959761142.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-578 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/img_thermal_1500959761142-e1501369264307-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"840\" height=\"630\" srcset=\"https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/img_thermal_1500959761142-e1501369264307-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/img_thermal_1500959761142-e1501369264307-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/img_thermal_1500959761142-e1501369264307-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/img_thermal_1500959761142-e1501369264307.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 840px) 100vw, 840px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Update [02\/06\/2018] I did some experiments with external capacitors and realized that the real problem is the crappy 13.5V@3A power supply that came with it. Yes, I tested it with a DC load and it can really do 3A, but it has a weird behavior: when there&#8217;s\u00a0<span style=\"font-size: 1.0625rem;\">a huge power draw (like from a bass drum) that drops the voltage level below 11.5V, the power supply starts oscillating from 10V to 11.5V (never gets above that even when I stopped the music) with a regular hissing noise of around 1Hz physically from the power supply itself. I had to turn the unit off for it to ramp back to 13.5V.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Then I used my HP 6033A systems power supply (can do 30A, relatively clean power with fast transient recovery) and observed the rail voltage and compared it to when I power the LP-2024A+ with a big capacitor + original power supply. It&#8217;s clear that no capacitor is big enough to cover the flaw of that crappy power supply that came with the amp.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 1.0625rem;\">After the power supply issue is resolved, even loud music sounds smooth, expressing the 3D acoustic image crisply through my ADS 200 speakers: I felt like a person is talking\/singing right in front of me than some loudspeaker generated sound. It&#8217;s so crisp that I can hear each individual string pluck. Bass is deep too after I added a ADS sub 6 subwoofer.\u00a0I&#8217;ve been listening to &#8220;the Phantom Of the Opera&#8221; CDs ever since high school and I&#8217;m still rediscovering new musical details with this amplifier + ADS speakers!\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Before the mod, I would hesitate to make it my main amplifier and might want to go back to my Denon AVR-988 for serious listening. It took me quite a while to tune my Denon to sound good, but it works right out of the box on my modified Lepy LP-2024A+!<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Update [08\/21\/2017]: Based on people&#8217;s comment (in audiokarma) on TA-2020A+ vs TPA3116, I decided to give it a shot and ordered Nobsound&#8217;s 50W model.<\/p>\n<p>Actually before this LP-2024A+, I modded a Pyle TA-2020A and was disappointed at the clarity is totally lacking compared to the lower powered LP-2024A+. I thought it could be Pyle&#8217;s terrible implementation of TA-2020A+, but after hearing TPA3316, I observed these:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>TPA3116 has less distortion than TA-2020A+ and it sounded slightly tighter at all frequencies, especially the low ones<\/li>\n<li>Both TA-2020A+ and TPA3116 lack the clarity at vocal frequencies and above. TA-2024A+ beat them both hands down.<\/li>\n<li>TA-2024A+ draws 0.15A when no music is played while TPA3116 draws 0.03A. The reading is from my HP 6032A (60V, 50A) power supply.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>TPA3316 might have a tighter bass than TA-2024A+, but I wouldn&#8217;t trade the vocal and up for that. TA-2024A+ might be marginally OK for N.W.A., but certainly not for parties. 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The summer heat prompted me to look into Class-D amplifiers as they&#8217;re highly energy efficient. I bought a Lepy LP-2024A+, a Class-T &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/2017\/07\/29\/lepy-lp-2024a-class-t-amplifier-mod\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"pvc_clear\"><\/div>\n<p id=\"pvc_stats_571\" class=\"pvc_stats all  \" data-element-id=\"571\" style=\"\"><i class=\"pvc-stats-icon medium\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><svg aria-hidden=\"true\" focusable=\"false\" data-prefix=\"far\" data-icon=\"chart-bar\" role=\"img\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" viewBox=\"0 0 512 512\" class=\"svg-inline--fa fa-chart-bar fa-w-16 fa-2x\"><path fill=\"currentColor\" d=\"M396.8 352h22.4c6.4 0 12.8-6.4 12.8-12.8V108.8c0-6.4-6.4-12.8-12.8-12.8h-22.4c-6.4 0-12.8 6.4-12.8 12.8v230.4c0 6.4 6.4 12.8 12.8 12.8zm-192 0h22.4c6.4 0 12.8-6.4 12.8-12.8V140.8c0-6.4-6.4-12.8-12.8-12.8h-22.4c-6.4 0-12.8 6.4-12.8 12.8v198.4c0 6.4 6.4 12.8 12.8 12.8zm96 0h22.4c6.4 0 12.8-6.4 12.8-12.8V204.8c0-6.4-6.4-12.8-12.8-12.8h-22.4c-6.4 0-12.8 6.4-12.8 12.8v134.4c0 6.4 6.4 12.8 12.8 12.8zM496 400H48V80c0-8.84-7.16-16-16-16H16C7.16 64 0 71.16 0 80v336c0 17.67 14.33 32 32 32h464c8.84 0 16-7.16 16-16v-16c0-8.84-7.16-16-16-16zm-387.2-48h22.4c6.4 0 12.8-6.4 12.8-12.8v-70.4c0-6.4-6.4-12.8-12.8-12.8h-22.4c-6.4 0-12.8 6.4-12.8 12.8v70.4c0 6.4 6.4 12.8 12.8 12.8z\" class=\"\"><\/path><\/svg><\/i> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"16\" height=\"16\" alt=\"Loading\" src=\"https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/plugins\/page-views-count\/ajax-loader-2x.gif\" border=0 \/><\/p>\n<div class=\"pvc_clear\"><\/div>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"inline_featured_image":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[18],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-571","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-electronics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/571","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=571"}],"version-history":[{"count":16,"href":"https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/571\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":851,"href":"https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/571\/revisions\/851"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=571"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=571"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=571"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}