{"id":1826,"date":"2019-05-31T19:39:16","date_gmt":"2019-06-01T03:39:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/?p=1826"},"modified":"2021-10-25T00:39:05","modified_gmt":"2021-10-25T08:39:05","slug":"spyder-on-mx-linux","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/wonghoi.humgar.com\/blog\/2019\/05\/31\/spyder-on-mx-linux\/","title":{"rendered":"Spyder on MX Linux"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

This is another example that non-commercial (open-source) Linux\/Python does not have a feel of a finished product: things break out of the box when installed fresh, in the most simple, expected ways, without any tweaks.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Again, don’t get me wrong, open-source free software are good stuff (more modern concepts and people working on it for free), but it’s never going to beat professional companies (like Microsoft\/MATLAB) in how well-funded they are so they can maintain their software and the user experience using their profits. So far, users are still expected to put up with a bunch of unjustifiably unnecessary work to get to where they want to go with community-maintained software like Linux\/Python.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

This time I’m installing Spyder on MX Linux. Look at how many damn hoops I have to jump to get Spyder 3 to function properly there:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

  1. I installed python3-spyder from MX Package Installer<\/li>
  2. Spyder complained about missing rope<\/a>\u00a0on start<\/li>
  3. Installed python-rope on MX Package Installer. The complaint still won’t go away<\/li>
  4. I tried follow the instruction sudo pip3 install rope_py3k<\/code> \u00a0and realized pip3 was not installed already with the Python that came with Spyder! (Didn’t have the problem with the Windows counterpart).<\/li>
  5. Installed python3-pip from MX Package Installer.<\/li>
  6. Came back and run\u00a0pip3 install rope_py3k<\/code>. It choked at \"Command 'python\u00a0 setup.oy egg_info' failed with error code 1 in \/tmp\/pip-build-0nnknjhi\/rope-py3k\"<\/code>. Again, known<\/a> problem.<\/li>
  7. Followed the solution in the comments\u00a0pip3 install --upgrade setuptools<\/code><\/li>
  8. Then come back and run\u00a0pip3 install rope_py3k<\/code>\u00a0again. It says \"Failed building wheel for rope-py3k\"<\/code> in between, but nonetheless I’ll try to move on since it says \"Successfully installed rope-py3k-0.9.4.post1\"<\/code><\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n

    Then Spyder launch uneventfully.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    These are not design decisions (sacrificing one quality for another), but inter-operability wrinkles that nobody are paid enough to do the grunt-work babysitting it. So if your business profits heavily from it, consider sponsoring the developers!<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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    It’s also slightly annoying that the version of Spyder maitained in MX Linux’s most recent repository is a little older than what’s actually available (3.1.3+dfsg1-3 instead of 3.3.4).<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    At first I followed instructions to have PIP to update it: pip3 install -U spyder<\/code>, but it doesn’t work. I got a lot of “failed building wheel for (package)” error.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    I also realized the Python that came with it is 3.5, not the 3.7(.3) I had in Windows. I checked the MX package manager and indeed it stopped at 3.5. After some searching, I learned the base system package was frozen in 2016<\/a>! MX Test Repo (at your own risk) has Python 3.7 though.<\/p>\n

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